Cider Hard, But Quick and Easy

by Green Deane

in Alcohol, Recipes

Homemade cider in the making

How To Make Hard Cider

You can make hard apple cider the difficult way, or the quick and easy way. I prefer the easy quick way. I’ve made a lot of beer and wine, including apple wine and a sparkling apple wine. The hard part was getting a cider taste rather than an apple wine flavor.  And to be honest I wanted authentic taste but I didn’t think I had to work hard at it; our ancestors didn’t. This is not to knock those who spend months making an exquisite hard cider. This is a quick and refreshing drink for those with no patience.

When I was a kid my family would go to a local commercial orchard and buy bushels of bruised apples for our horses. We always got a couple of gallons of regular cider at the time. But then my father would ask for some cider from a particular barrel. That was the illegal hard cider barrel — illegal in that it wasn’t taxed.  I remember the flavor of that hard cider well and when I made hard cider I wanted something close to that authentic taste. It wasn’t aged much, it wasn’t wine, and it wasn’t bubbly apple juice: It was hard cider with a crackle. And I also know they didn’t work hard at making it. It wasn’t involved, fancy or difficult. Here’s how I make my hard cider:

On Sunday I buy a gallon of apple cider at the health food store. It doesn’t have to be organic but the important part is that it contain no preservative, such as nitrates or sulfides.  Ascorbic acid added is okay, and it can be pasteurized. I pour off a half a cup of juice and add a half a cup of starter (explained later.)  I put on a fermentation lock and put it in a warm place. By Monday it’s fermenting vigorously. Friday I bottle it and put it back in the warm place. Saturday night I put it in the fridge. By Sunday, it’s cool and ready for drinking.  If you let it age a week or two it’s even better. In one week you can be enjoying your own home-made hard apple cider with that great authentic old-fashion flavor.

Tastes vary. I like my hard cider a little on the sweet side, so I let it ferment for only five days, no longer. This, of course, may vary brand to brand. Some cider or juice may need to be fermented more or less depending on your personal tastes and the sugar content of the juice.  When I bottle I pour it into empty 16 oz plastic seltzer water bottles, and put the caps back on. I let those set in a warm place until they are as hard as the bottles were when they had seltzer water in them. As I said, that usually only takes a day here. Then it all goes in the fridge. It can be drank immediately or over the next week or three.  Keep an eye on the carbonation and make sure it doesn’t build up too much and break the plastic bottle. The dryer you like the cider, the longer you let it ferment before you bottle it and cap it.

Let me back up and provide some details. You can use beer yeast and a store-bought fermentation lock, or you can use wild yeast and a homemade fermentation lock. I use wild yeast and a store fermentation lock, basically because that is what I have on hand. Let me explain them both.

Using wild apple yeast is taking a chance that the yeast will throw a bad flavor, and opens the possibility of mold taking over before the yeast does. On the other hand, using a beer yeast increases your chances of success. I opted for wild apple yeast because I wanted my own yeast that no one else had. When I first bought a gallon of organic cider at the same time I bought an organic granny smith apple. It could have been any organic apple, but the key is it was an organic apple that should have wild apple yeast on it. I did not wash it. I took my apple cider and apple home. I peeled the apple and put the peeling into the apple juice and put it in a warm, dark place. It took almost two weeks for the yeast on the peeling to multiply to the point I could see bubbles rising in the cider. But by three weeks I was on my way. If you use beer yeast you will be in action overnight, greatly diminishing the chances of mold spoiling the party.

When I bottled that first batch of cider I kept the dregs, which were apple sediment, some juice, and a lot of yeast. I put that in a two quart soda bottle, added a couple of tablespoons of sugar, and kept it in a warm place, letting off the gas build-up every few days. One can also store it in the fridge long term. Now when I buy a gallon of cider, all I have to do is pour off a half a cup of juice, add a half a cup of starter, and then put that half cup of juice into the starter bottle with a little sugar. That wild yeast has produced very well for me for over two years. A bought yeast should perform even longer, but, at some point both will genetically drift and start to throw flavors you don’t want and you have to start again. Incidentally, you can use that wild yeast to raise bread slightly. Bread yeast will work to make cider but the alcohol content will be lower and the carbonation higher.

As for a home made fermentation lock: Since you will be fermenting it only one to three weeks at the most — depending upon what taste you like with your local brand — you can make a lock out of two things: a large balloon with a pin hole in it, or a piece of thin sandwich wrap with a pin hole in it held snug on the jug by an elastic band. Once the cider starts working there will be an outflow of pressure and that will keep any bad stuff out while the pin hole let’s the gas escape. Balloons are good if they are large enough to securely grab the jug’s mouth. Otherwise they can fill with gas and pop off even if you have a pin hole in it. Sometimes I use store locks and sometimes I use a piece of plastic. Balloons are really quite good but they have to be big balloons and they tend to be hard to find. Plain condoms held on with a rubber band will work well, too. Just don’t forget to put a pin hole in them and don’t forget you put a pin hole in them.

There is a certain amount of personal taste involved with how long you let the cider ferment. It depends on how sweet and how alcoholic you want it. The longer it ferments the more alcohol it will have and the less sweet it will be. If you let it ferment for more than a month or so it will start to lose its cider characteristic and start to be more like a semi-bubbly wine. It will also take on a harsh flavor that takes a couple of years of proper storage to moderate.

While purist have a good point when they say only certain apples and certain solids in the juice make a true cider, it is a continuum. Apple cider will become apple wine at some point. My hard cider is quick, lightly alcoholic, murky, and not harsh. You can easily drink it in a week. Apple wine is clear, more potent, and takes years to make not days.

The best thing is to do first time out is follow the schedule. Whether you use an apple peel that takes three weeks to get going or a teaspoon of beer yeast, count your five days after you can see a steady stream of bubbles to the top. (See my video to see what vigorous bubbles look like. It’s my most popular video.)  Once you have a starter it works just as fast as commercial yeast.

If you like the sugar/alcohol levels of your test batch, then stay at five-day fermentation level. If you want it less sweet, let it ferment seven days or then 10 or 14. You may have to add a little sugar for carbonation if you let it ferment for more than three weeks.  With my rich starter, my cider starts working within 24 hours and at the end there will always be a little sediment at the bottom of your jug and bottles. It is harmless. You can drink it or add it to your starter.

And what of the cider made this way? It’s very good. It is not rank. It is not on par with an English pub cider, but it’s quick, easy and you can get consistently good results.  You could just as easily do five gallons as long as you had the bottles to put them in. If you don’t want to use plastic bottles you can also collect champagne bottles that will take a bottle cap. The best way to get those is raid weddings. I used to go to hotels on weekend and rescue cases of empty champagne bottles from wedding receptions. Unless you plan on corking them, only take the kind that take a bottle cap. Bottle cappers are inexpensive and caps are cheap.

I have found this to be the quickest, easiest way to make good cider with minimal equipment and hassles. If you have any questions, email me and I will do my best to answer them.  While this focus has been on apple juice, it can be use with any sweet juice with sugar. It would even work with plain sugar and water, though there wouldn’t be much flavor.

As far as brands….my best flavor came from some organic apple cider (Knudson) at the health food store. But the price jumped recently to $12 a gallon, which translates into about 85 cents a cup. Whitehouse apple juice locally is selling for $5 a gallon, the final flavor is good and the price under fifty cents a cup final product. Supermarket brands tend to be low in sugar and produce dry or sour cider. No doubt there are some frozen apple juices that will work just as well. Once one has a good starter yeast one can experiment around.

And as safety measure: Never put a juice into your starter until after that juice has proven it is safe for the yeast by beginning to ferment first. Even a teaspoon of juice with preservatives will kill off your starter yeast. I also have two starters that I keep going at the same time just in case something does happen to one I still have the other.

By the way, don’t put your hard cider into a freezer. Much of the water will turn to ice and the very drinkable liquid you have left over is much stronger and is called home-made Apple Jack, which is illegal in most states because it hasn’t been taxed. Freezing it will accidentally make a 40% proof brew. Accidentally freezing a second time after removing the ice will make higher in proof.

Lastly, if you are using something like concord grape juice you might want to shorten the vigorous fermentation time to three days instead of six to retain sweetness.  Because of its intense muscadine flavor concord grape juice can taste sour even with some residual sugar so I only work it three days, comes out great. In fact, if I do Welches regular concord grape juice three days with my starter, charge for a day, then refrigerate it tastes very close to a red lambrusco.  I also do orange juice and the like for shorter times than cider depending upon the sugar content. If one gets a sour batch, one can always add sugar and still bottle.

Oh, a little fact: John Adams, first vice president of the United States and second president, liked to start every day with a tall glass of hard cider.  He lived well past 90.

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{ 57 comments… read them below or add one }

Lindsey November 21, 2016 at 09:58

First, thank you for creating one of the best blogs in the world.
Next, a question:
I have used this method (with champagne yeast) several times, on different apple ciders, with great success. This time, however, the yeast just doesn’t seem to be doing much. I let it sit for several days, and then added a bit more yeast, let it sit for several more days, and all i have is a few stray bubbles. It HAS been a bit cooler in the house now that the season has turned, but I didn’t think it was enough to prevent fermentation! The cider doesn’t seem to have any sulfates or nitrates (the only added ingredient is potassium sorbate) and has plenty of sugar.
What could be the problem here?
And, furthermore, should I keep trying with this bottle, or might it be moldy or otherwise spoiled at this point? It’s over a week since I started now.
Thanks for your wisdom!


Green Deane November 29, 2016 at 10:29

Have you checked the sugar level?


Jeff October 18, 2016 at 12:03

thank you for the write-up. I don’t have plastic bottles to put the cider in after it’s done. It had been my thought to just leave it in the original 1 gallon glass bottle and pour as needed. Is that not a good way to do it?



Green Deane October 18, 2016 at 13:53

The one-gallon bottle is not strong enough to endure much pressurization. The yeast will continue to make gas. If you let the gas off it won’t be sparkling.


jen September 16, 2016 at 13:45

Here is my standard method, thanks to your guidance! I buy Motts apple juice on Sunday. I open the gallon jug, pour out a small bit, sprinkle about a quarter envelope of Red Star Red Star Pasteur Blanc Champagne Yeast into the jug, and pop a sanitized airlock on it, and let it sit until the following Saturday, when I bottle. For bottling, I add to the gallon of cider a 1/2 cup of brown sugar simple syrup, which gives it really great carbonation and a nice understated flavor – not too dry, not too sweet. Within 3-1/2 days ( by Tuesday) the bottles are rock hard and ready to refrigerate and drink. My neighbor drilled a pressure gauge into a plastic cap for me and it seems like 30PSI is about the max safe pressure for the seltzer jugs. Damn if this stuff isn’t quick, easy, and delicious!! Thanks again for your guidance!!


Green Deane September 18, 2016 at 22:04

Thanks… I worked at it to replicate the favor of the illegal cider we bought in the old orchards.


jen June 27, 2016 at 15:19

Hi! Bottling my first batch with your recipe tonight! Have you ever figured out the alcohol level using this recipe? Many thanks for the guidance!


Green Deane June 27, 2016 at 18:00

It will vary but initially it should be about 3%.


jen June 29, 2016 at 09:05

More questions if you’d be kind enough… We have limited fridge space. Once the cider is bottled, is there any way to stop the fermentation besides refrigeration? Or, if it’s chilled for a few days then stored in a closet does the fermentation start back up risking exploding bottles? Thanks again!


jen June 29, 2016 at 09:24

Looks like the most reliable technique is drinking it! I found a forum giving a pasteurizing technique, but it won’t work for my plastic seltzer bottles. If I go into bigger production maybe I’ll go to glass…. Cheers!


Green Deane June 29, 2016 at 19:20

Yes and yes. One can heat the bottles but that can affect the taste. And if you take bottles out of the frig and put them in a warm place they will begin to ferment faster. There is a partial solution but not the best. You can let them ferment more and crack the caps to let off pressure. However that will make the cider make more alcohol and the longer it does that the harsher it gets in the short term. At eight to ten weeks or so it gets too foul tasting to enjoy and has to sit for a year or two to become palatable again, like wine.


Scotty March 13, 2016 at 17:05

I have some organic cider I bought one week ago and cut the tops of the plastic jugs to let the carbonation I strained it into glass canning jars and its sitting in the dark in my bedroom…nothing has been added or taken away..what now..can it still be saved…kinda smells funny booze….lol


Robert February 20, 2016 at 21:36

How can I make Spanish style cider at home? What gives Spanish sidre it’s funky musty characteristics?


Green Deane February 29, 2016 at 18:22

Probably it is the local material.


Bill January 20, 2016 at 19:53

Have 4.5 gallon’s of cider fermenting – 3rd day checked my cider my O.G. was 1.060 3 day reading is 1.035 – I would like a slightly sweet cider( tasted it tonite and was very sweet ) with a little kick about 2.5 % al/vol – can I force carbonate when it gets to about 1.015 after transferring it to my tap a draft dispenser.


Chris December 27, 2015 at 08:28

I just finished the last few bottles of cider and thought I would share some of the things I learned from my first during my first attempt at making cider.
I live in Boston and found an orchard outside the city that allowed me to come choose my own bushels from cold storage. They also allowed me to run their hand crank cider press so the experience was really fun. I filled three 5 gallon carboys. I can’t remember how many bushels it was, but total cost was around $100 for 15 gallons of cider.

I allowed the cider to sit for about a week before adding priming sugar and a packet of cider house select cider yeast. Fermentation only lasted about a week, whereas most things I read said it would take 2 weeks. I let the cider sit for 3 more weeks before bottling my first batch. I made batches one gallon at a time and varied each batch to see what worked well.

I tasted the cider after this and it tasted very watery and didn’t have any sweetness or noticeable apple flavor. I was very concerned about this but had read that it is common.

In the first batch I used one cup of xylitol and one cup of brown sugar. This was way more sugar than I should have used and the result was some extreme carbonation, almost like champagne. A couple bottles in this batch did end up exploding in my basement, and I do mean explode.. It was like someone tossed a cider grenade into my basement. This batch also lacked a pronounced apple flavor.

In the next batch I added a half cup of xylitol and a half can of apple juice concentrate. I also pasteurized the bottles after about 5 days to stop the carbonation process. This batch was not quite sweet enough but the carbonation was just about right.

At this point I decided that I actually liked the highly carbonated cider because it drank like champagne so I ended up buying 2 cases of champagne bottles with corks and wire cages. I bottled these batches with 3/4 can of apple juice concentrate 1 cup of xylitol and 1/2 cup of brown sugar per gallon. If you open the bottles warm they will explode with fizz everywhere and you will lose the whole bottle. BUT, if you ice the bottle down and get it very cold then you will not get that fizz and it has all the body of champagne. It also made for great Christmas gifts.

I experimented with the rest of the batches until I ended up with what I thought was the perfect cider. 3/4 cup of xylitol per gallon seemed like the magic number for me. It definitely makes the cider sweet, but not too sweet like an Angry Orchard. 3/4 can of apple concentrate gives the cider a very solid apple flavor which mine needed. There is also enough sugar in the concentrate so I don’t think you need to add additional sugar but if do add brown sugar don’t add more than a teaspoon per bottle. I let the bottles sit for about 5 days and then pop one to see how the carbonation is. When I at the carbonation level is where I want it, I pasteurize the bottle by putting it into large pot of 160 degree water for about 10 to 15 minutes.


John December 23, 2015 at 20:22

Hi- I am very interested in making homemade apple cider with your methods. I had pressed some cider from a neighbor’s tree and canned it in Ball jars around two months ago. It kept well but today I found that one of the jars was very clear and there were bubbles coming from the apple sediment at the bottom. Afraid that the jar would rupture I opened it and found that the cider had become quite alcoholic and carbonated. I put this in an old wine bottle and corked it, leaving it in my garage. I was wondering why this one jar had fermented so much when the others didn’t and will this happen to the remaining sealed jars. Thanks for your help.


Green Deane December 24, 2015 at 05:56

Just the right conditions…


Michael December 18, 2015 at 17:54

Hey, I’ve been following your guide with my first attempt at making cider. My first bottle will be reaching 5 days tomorrow and I’d like to stop the fermentation then. What exactly is the process in stopping it and getting the yeast to settle? Do I just replace the airlock with the bottle cap and out it in the fridge? Or do I bottle it before the yeast settles? Or Something else entirely?


Green Deane December 19, 2015 at 15:04

Either will work. It is the chilling that slows the fermentation, and the cap that traps the gas to carbonate it.


Dan December 5, 2015 at 14:47

I made some grape mix,real grapes I mashed by hand.I left it all in a gallon containerI’ve had have it in my fridge now for over a year.How can I check alcohol %.also.I drank a large glass after I had it chilled a was about a week old.Bitter,too bitter for still tasted the same when I tasted it last month.I used bread yeast and I noticed it didn’t turn out as potent as using a starter.My great uncle use to make the best cider in Benton Maine.but he’s gone now.He explained his process to me when I was younger but I was not crazy about making it,I just liked helping him sample it.Thanks for the starter tip.I hope to keep the cider barrel alive here in Maine.


Green Deane December 14, 2015 at 16:05

We used to get our apples (and cider) decades ago at Terison’s Apple Orchard in Cumberland County, which was about 10 years after they opened.


Eric November 7, 2015 at 17:24

Hey this is my first time making hard cider and I was wondering a couple things. First of all, bread yeast should work fine right? Do I have to make a starter or can I add the dry yeast directly to the apple juice? If I just add the dry yeast, how much do I add to 2 litres (about half a gallon)? And then do I shake it up or just let it sit? Thanks!


Green Deane November 7, 2015 at 19:25

Bread yeast will work but … it is bread to produce a lot of gas quickly rather than alcohol. It will work but you might get better results with other yeasts. You can add the dry yeast right to the juice. It will mix itself or you can shake it up.


Todd November 4, 2015 at 12:19

I used mussleman’s cider to make 3 batches. how clear should it become. will it stay the consistency of the original store bought cider. also I find the smell a bit odd (like a fart :-j ) is this normal? also I am finding at 5 days the alcohol is about 4.8%…is this good?


Green Deane November 4, 2015 at 13:41

Sounds like everything is doing what it should do. It often stays cloudy. More so if you let it work longer it will get too harsh to drink for a couple of years. I’d seal in bottles, let it charge for a day or so and into the frig.


Patricia October 31, 2015 at 16:19

I have organic apple cider in a plastic quart container sealed from a local orchard. It was opened and has been in the fridge for a week now. The bottle is bloating. Is it becoming hard and is the the lazy way to make hard apple cider? I do not want to waste it. If I took it our and put cheesecloth over it would it turn into apple cider vinegar?
Thank you,


Green Deane October 31, 2015 at 17:51

Sounds like you have hard cider to me if it tastes good.


Patricia October 31, 2015 at 18:32

So it can turn that hard that quickly?
Also, if I take it out and let it sit with cheesecloth over the opening, will it after a few or several weeks be vinegar?
And, lastly, is there ever a reason to throw this out?
Thank you.


Green Deane November 1, 2015 at 17:52

The recipe is to make hard cider in just a few days… making vinegar requires the cooperation of vinegar flies. I have an article on said. Throw out? No but it can get too harsh to drink for a few years. That is why it is a short, quick beverage. If not arrested at that state it can take a couple of years before it smooths out enough to drink.


Jenny October 28, 2015 at 11:18

How long will hard cider last in the fridge? Does it continue to get stronger, there? I have a gallon of fresh cider my kids won’t drink because it started to get fizzy. I’d like to make it hard and take it for Thanksgiving… Should it still be good?


Green Deane October 28, 2015 at 11:33

It will work in the frig but slowly.


Frederique October 1, 2015 at 14:00


I purchased some freshly juiced apple “cider” (the brown stuff) from an orchard when i went apple picking last. It is neither pasturized nor added with preservatives and was bought expressly for me to try your recipe. Last night when i finally got around to it (had to get a hold of an airlock and large enough mason jar) the 2L of apple juice had been sitting on its side for almost 2 weeks in the fridge. The side it was on was covered with white stuff (I am assuming apple solids and or yeast) so I shook the hell out of it. I then poured the juice to about 80% of the mason jar (so that the airlock tip was not submerged in the liquid), secured the top with the metal ring (the airlock is set into the drilled metal lid) and placed it in the corner. This was last night, say 9pm. At 6am this morning, nothing was going on. My question: since i want this to be a wild yeast cider, and i did NOT add an apple peel (thought the white stuff would be enough) how long should I wait for fermentation to start before I give up? I’m terribly afraid that it won’t start at all, but can be patient if needed!


Green Deane October 1, 2015 at 20:02

It sounds like you’ve only let it work a few hours. Give it some time, also it should not be in the refrigerator but in a warm spot.


Frederique October 2, 2015 at 11:28

Oh, it’s been in a warm place under airlock for over 36hrs now, still no bubbles, but I will be patient 🙂 It was in the fridge simply until I could get the set-up ready! Thanks!


Joshua August 12, 2015 at 10:58

I make my own applesauce, and apple juice at the same time. It is cooked to start. After cooling I add some raw juice (about a qt per gallon) for the natural actives. This time though I think my beginning product was thicker, almost syrupy. It all brewed nicely, good flavor, and just where I like it flavorwise, BUT, it is kinda syrupy. First thought: add water. Yikes, scary thought. Ok, maybe add thinned juice. Hmm…ought I do so?


Hezaa September 20, 2015 at 11:56

Apples contain a lot of pectin, which is the gelling agent in jams and jellies. This is why apple sauce naturally gets all good and gloppy. I believe it’s “activated” at a certain temperature, which means if you cook apples and then use the juice from them it’s going to add a bunch of gelled pectin to the brew, which would make it syrupy!
I just got a big batch of raw apple cider from a friend with too many apple trees and a press. She advised me not to boil it – to bring the cider to juuust barely below a boil to kill off any bad bacteria, and then immediately turn it off and let it cool to avoid that happening.


Dean (aspiring to be greene:) July 31, 2015 at 09:20

Hi Green Deane! Fantastic website by the way. Probably the best foraging site on the web, and very classy!
I’ve started growing a culture of wild yeast in some organic apple juice, a bit of sugar and some peelings from an apple tree in my front yard that produces small (golf ball sized) sweet apples with reddish flesh. I sterilized everything, sans the apple, by either boiling or baking. After about 4 days I’m starting to see a small white film of what I presume is mold on the surface. My hope is that removing the mold and giving the starter a bit of a shake every day or so will give the yeast a chance to take hold and out-compete the nasties. My question is; is a small amount of mold ok or should I scrape it and start over? I remember some roommates who had kombucha babies that got pretty scary looking and they still used them with no problems. Any thoughts?


Gaby April 23, 2015 at 16:12


Your article is awesome, I have been reading about home brewing cider non-stop and this was by far the most helpful. I started brewing my first batch yesterday with store bough apple juice (no chemicals or additives) and with a package of store bough yeast. I also added some sugar. I was surprised today to find a layer of yellowy-white on the bottom of my carboy as I haven’t read that sediment appears so early. Is it normal for the layer on the bottom to be there so soon? Thanks for your help!



Green Deane April 23, 2015 at 20:41

It depends on the yeast. If you bought bread yeast that can very well be what happened. Bread yeast is designed to produce a lot of gas but not too much alcohol.


Tom April 21, 2015 at 21:33

I’ve made several batches of your recipe with great results. However, the yeast I am using Lalvin 1118 is very aggressive and at 5 days the sugar is all eaten. I confirmed with a hydrometer. Is it permissible to bottle at 4 days with “sweeter” results? Thanks.


Green Deane April 21, 2015 at 23:39

Sure but after it charges up cool it down so it does’t over gas and make bottle explode.


Tom April 22, 2015 at 23:45

You mention the cider is better if you age it a week or two. By this, do you mean aging in the refrigerator after bottling and charging?


Green Deane April 23, 2015 at 13:58

Aging fresh cider is a delicate balance. It can improve with a week in the frig. But a week at room temperature can make it very harsh.


George April 10, 2015 at 12:30

Grew up drinking raw cider as a kid in NC. OUR FAMILY WAS FROM VA and still have apple orchards in the Blue Ridge. We would get it by the gallon and let it sit on the porch and it would slowly turn hard. Here’s my questions. Does that plain raw cider that is turning have alcohol in it? Secondly, “making” hard cider will produce what ABV? I would like to produce cider around the 6-8% ABV. Thanks.


Green Deane April 10, 2015 at 14:25

Non-hard cider will turn to hard cider if left to sit in a warm place and protected from vinegar flies and the like. One can make high alcohol content cider but there is a trade off, which is time. The higher the alcohol content the long it has to age before it is palatable. This is why stretching this current recipe beyond a few days to a few weeks produces a liquid that is hard to drink.


Michael March 31, 2015 at 00:10

Hi Green Dean! Brilliant page, so much info! So my first effort, my starter, I have had peels sitting in some apple juice for 4 days and fermentation has begun… going to pour off half a cup and get a batch on the go. Am I correct in thinking I can remove the peels from my starter now that there is active wild yeast? I want to keep it going for a while and am worried about mould/unwanted bacteria creeping in if I leave the peels in my starter. Thanks in advance!!


Green Deane March 31, 2015 at 08:19

Yes, you can remove them, or keep them. If the upper environment is air tight meaning mostly CO2 then they can stay in but if you feel better taking them go ahead and do so.


Nancy March 27, 2015 at 00:24

Can’t wait to start this brew! I’ve tried other cider recipes and they always come out too dry, too flat and too yucky. The short ferment makes total sense for sweetness and bubbles. Two questions: what is the alcohol percent? And have you tried grolsch bottles? Thanks for posting this. Starting on Sunday for enjoying on Saturday night!


millie March 10, 2015 at 03:13

omg: I guffawed out loud reading this blogpost. what a hoot you are and… you’ve inspired me, a bloody tea-totaller, to try to make a batch of this yummy sounding hootch.

god forbid I don’t mistakenly freeze a gallon someday… that would be just awful. (grin)

you are DA BOMB.



Anthony March 2, 2015 at 18:07

Just finished my first batch. For the bottling, has anyone ever use pint sized mason jars before? Not sure if the pressure would crack the jar. Thanks for any input.


Green Deane March 2, 2015 at 19:12

They might last for a while … but it is a balancing act.


Fred February 16, 2015 at 20:55

Just Made my first batch, pretty much following your lead, turned out pretty good, needs to sit a bit more , still a little yeasty, semi dry, semi sweet, good effervescence.


Michael February 16, 2015 at 14:30

Hello! I would like to know what size stopper is needed for the same 96 oz Santa Cruz Bottle pictured?



Karen Burke February 8, 2015 at 10:11

Hi! Hope you can help me out. A guy I worked with in around 2000 made home made apple jack. It was delicious. He gave me several bottles in 2002 and some how a bottle (dated fall 2002) got shoved to the back of the fridge in the horse barn where I worked, the bottle has not been opened. The fridge has been unplugged for a little over a year, so it has been warm for the past year. I cleaned off the bottle, the Apple jack is clear medium amber with no sediment in it. We are wondering…is it still good to drink? No one is willing to test it out yet. Thanks for your help.


Green Deane February 8, 2015 at 19:26

Send me a case for proper sampling and I’ll let you know.


Karen Burke February 21, 2015 at 19:03

Rofl!!! There’s only 1 bottle left! I could send you the bottle, and we could sit and wonder how it tasted until we heard from you…then again, lol…”IF” we hear from you. No lawsuits allowed!!! Maybe I’ll hide it and let someone in 50 -100 yrs decide 🙂


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