Acorn: More than a survival food
The first time you eat an acorn it makes you wonder what the squirrels are going nuts about. As the bitterness twists your mouth into a pucker it reminds you animals can eat a lot of things we can’t… unless we modify them.
A lot has been said about acorns. I’ll try to say a few things that haven’t been said. Let’s start with that fact that the world’s biggest acorn is in Moore Square Park in downtown Raleigh, North Carolina. Raleigh calls itself “The City of Oaks.” The “Big Acorn” is ten feet tall and weights 1,250 pounds. I’d hate to meet the squirrel that can carry it away. But, it does remind me of a general rule of thumb about acorns: The bigger the cap on the acorn, the more bitter it will be.
The English word “oak” is some 1,260 years old. In German it was “eih” ending up “eiche” The Dutch extended it to “eychen” or ” eychenboom.” (I went to school with a “Cossaboom” meaning cherry tree.) Oaks are also mentioned in ancient texts. Greeks of old said “dryas.” Modern Greek say “dris.” It was the preferred tree of Zeus. Those faithful to Zeus gathered around oak trees. The Celts preferred to knock on oak wood. One variation of their word for oak was “dair, the fourth letter of the Celtic alphabet and part of the name of the city Kildare (means “Church in the Oaks.”) Often associated with strength, the US military awards gold “oak leaf clusters” for exceptional bravery. Oaks have been a significant part of every culture around them.
The word “acorn” is a combination of “ak” for oak and “corn” meaning seed thus acorn means oak seed. The Greeks say velanidi, the Spanish bellota, the French gland, Italians glanda, Portuguese, glande, and in the forgotten fifth romantic language, ghinda in Romanian. Those Roman’s got around. All the Romantics come from the Latin word gland, which also lent itself to the medical term for a certain acorn-like part of the male anatomy. The acorn is also one of the few nuts or fruits that is not directly named in Modern English after the tree it comes from which is why one does not hear of oak nuts… walnuts, beechnuts, hickory nuts, oak nuts… gland… it could all get rather naughty.
At least 450 species of oak populate world wide. Some 30 species in the United States have been used for food and oil. The Live Oak is the most prized, not only for food but particularly ship building. Its very long, graceful limbs were ready-made for boat keels and ribs. In fact, the U.S. Navy once had its own live oak forest just for boat building. Sold off long ago, the Navy began stockpiling Live Oak in 1992 for restoration of the USS Constitution. It got 50 live oaks from Florida in 2002 of 160 that were cleared for a golf course near Tallahassee. Just as 200 years ago, the trees were selected for their natural curves for the ship. In the white oak family, the Live Oak’s acorns are among the mildest one can collect. Botanically the Live Oak is Quercus virginiana. Quercus (KWERK-kus ) was the Roman name for the tree and virginiana (ver-jin-ee-AY-nuh) means North America and usually where the species was first noticed, such as Virginia.
The seed crop from an oak, the acorns, is called a “mast” which means “food” and putting on a crop of acorns is masting. It is tempting to say it is probably related to the word to “masticate” meaning to chew but it isn’t. Mast came from the Middle English word “mete” meaning meat, which at that time meant any food, and we still use it abstractly in that way, as in “Education became his meat and experience his drink.” Mete came from the Italian word madere which came from the Greek word, madaros, meaning to be wet. That takes a bit of explaining. Greeks divided food into two large categories. “Wet” food was food fit for humans and pigs. Dry food was fit for cattle and fowl. Now you know.
Acorns are quite nutritious. For example, the nutritional breakdown of acorns from the Q. alba, — the white oak — is 50.4% carbohydrates, 34.7% water, 4.7% fat, 4.4.% protein, 4.2% fiber, 1.6% ash. A pound of shelled acorns provide 1,265 calories, a 100 grams (3.5 ounces) has 500 calories and 30 grams of oil. During World War II Japanese school children collected over one million tons of acorns to help feed the nation as rice and flour supplies dwindled.
Oaks fall into two large categories, those that fruit in one season, white oaks, and those that fruit after two seasons, the black oaks and the red oaks. The latter category is far more bitter than the former. The first category have leaves with round lobes and no prickles at the end of the leaves. The black and red oaks have prickles at the end of their leaves. They also have scales on the cups of the acorns, hair inside the caps, and a sheath around the nut (which always throws a color even wthen the tannis is leached out.) Some times those in the first category don’t need any leaching, or very little. The rest always do. But first, clean the acorns.
To clean acorns dump them into water and separate the ones that float. Take the ones that sink and dry them in a frying pan on the stove or in the oven at 150F or less for 15 minutes, preheated. Or put them in the sun for a few days. You don’t want to cook them yet, just dry them off and shrink the nut inside making them a little easier to shell. The yield, not counting bad acorns, is 2:1. two gallons of usable acorns in the shell will yield a gallon of nutmeat.
There are three general ways to leach acorns. The least common way is to bury them whole in a river bank for a year, which turns them black and sweet, good for roasting. The other method is to grind them into a course meal and soak several days or weeks (depending on the species) in many changes of cold water until the water runs clear. These will be slightly bland but good for making acorn flour. (Sometimes the leached acorns will be dark but sweet afterwards.) The third way — boiling — is least preferred because if done wrong it will bind the tannins to the acorn and they will not lose their bitterness. Also, when you boil the acorns you also boil off the oil with the tannins, reducing their nutrition. That oil, however, is very nutritious. At this writing it is selling for $182 a gallon. You can make it for far less. There is actually a foruth method that equires lye but it is not commonly used.
The boiling process requires two pots of boiling water. Put the acorns in one pot of already boiling water until the water darkens. Pour off the water and put the hot acorns in the other pot of boiling water while you reheat the first pot with fresh water to boiling. You keep putting the acorns in new boiling water until the water runs clear. Putting boiled acorns into cold water will bind the tannins to the acorn and they will stay bitter. So always move them from one boiling bath to another. Putting acorns in cold water and bringing the water to a boil will also bind the tannin. So it is either use all cold water and a long soaking or all boiling water and just a few hours of cooking. There is one other difference between the two methods.
The temperature at which you process the acorns at any point is critical. Boiling water or roasting over 165º F precooks the starch in the acorn. Cold processing and low temperatures under 150 does not cook the starch. Cold-water leached acorn meal thickens when cooked, hot-water leached acorn meal does not thicken or act as a binder (like eggs or gluten) when cooked. Your final use of the acorns should factor in how you will process them. If you are going to leach and roast whole for snacking then boiling is fine. If you are going to use the acorn for flour it should be cold processed, or you will have to add a binder.
Personally, I grind mine in a lot of water to a fine meal, let it set, then strain. I add more water to the meal, let set and strain. I do that until the water is clear or the meal not bitter. That takes a few days to a week. Then I dry it in the sun, unless there are squirrels about, then in a slow oven (under 150º F.) I end up with a meal or flour, depending on the grind, that will not crumble when cooked.
There are nearly as many ways to leach acorns as there are opinions about acorns. Another way is to put the shelled acorns in water in a blender or food processor and blend them into a milk-like slurry. Put that slurry in a fine mesh bag and then massage that under running water like a faucet. It works very quickly but of course some meal and oil is lost in the process. But it turns hours of leaching into minutes. Of course, leaching them in an unpolluted stream is the easiest way but you can also arrange for a container to leak slowly. Simply put a cloth on the bottom to hold the meal in and fill the container when it is empty, or run the faucet slowly to maintain the leaching. Another ways is to clean out the tank on your toilet and put the shelled acorns in a mesh bag in there. Every flush will remove tannic water and bring in fresh.
Many Native Americans preferred bitter acorns to sweet ones because they stored better. If after leaching there is just a hint of bitterness that can sometimes be removed by soaking the acorns in milk for a while. The protein in the milk will bind with the tannin in the acorns and can be poured off, if there is just a little. To get oil from the cold-leached acorns, boil them. The oil will rise to the top of the water. Also, charred acorns can be used as a substitute for coffee but really nothing is a substitute for coffee.
Whole leached acorns can be roasted for an hour at 350º F, coarsely ground leached acorns slightly less time. They can then be eaten or ground into non-binding flour. To make a flour out of your whole or coarsely ground acorns, toss them in a blender or food processor. Strain the results through a strainer to take out the larger pieces then reduce them as well. Acorn flour has no gluten so it is usually mixed 50/50 with wheat flour. Since acorn flour is high in oil it needs to be stored carefully and not allowed to go rancid. Remember cold processed acorn flour has more binding capacity than heat processed acorn flour.
Live Oak acorns top the food list for birds such as wood ducks, wild turkeys, quail and jays. Squirrels, raccoons and whitetail deer also like them, sometimes to the point of being 25% of their fall diet. Interestingly, the tannin tends to be in the bottom half of the acorn which is why you will often see a squirrel eat only the upper half of the acorn. Squirrels are also not fools. They will eat all of a white acorn when they find one because it is the least bitter. They will bury the very bitter red and black acorns so over time some of the bitterness is leached into the soil. Raiding a squirrel’s hoard will get bitter acorns. By the way, acorns shells and unleached nutmeat have gallotannins which are toxic to cattle, sheep, goats, horses and dogs.
If you use the boiling method don’t throw away the tannic water. The water has a variety of uses. With a mordant it can be used to dye clothing. The tannic acid also makes a good laundry detergent. Two cups to each load but it will color whites temporarily a slightly tan color. Tannic water is antiviral and antiseptic. It can be used as a wash for skin rashes, skin irritations, burns, cuts, abrasions and poison ivy. While you can pour the tannic water over poison ivy, if you have the luxury freeze the brown water in ice cube trays and use the cubes on the ivy eruption. If you have a sore throat you can even gargled with tannic water or use it as a mild tea for diarrhea and dysentery. Externally dark tannic water can be used on hemorrhoids. Hides soaked in tannic water make better leather clothing. Using the brown water turned hides tan colored and that is why it is called tanning and from there we get the words tannins and tannic. In traditional tanning methods, whole hides are soaked in a vat of tannin water for a full year before being processed.
Oak trees begin to produce acorns at about 20 years years old but usually the first full crop won’t happen until the tree is about 50. The average 100-year old oak produces about 2,200 acorns per season. Only one in 10,000 will become a tree.
Besides dyes paints have also been made from the oaks. It also a dense wood for working and weights 75 pounds per dry cubic foot. The hull of the US warship, USS Constitution, was made entirely of oak, white oak covering over a live oak core. At the waterline she was 25 inches thick. Eighteen-pound cannonballs bounced off the oak, notable in the 1812 battle with the HMS Guerriere. That battle and the subsequent loss of British ships caused the British to issue the order that no ship was to attack the Constitution singlehandedly. The Constitution, as of this writing, is still on duty and berthed in Boston.
Sprouted acorns are also edible as long as they haven’t turned green. I’ve heard from German forager Peter Becker has a slightly different view of what to do with acorns.
“What I do to prep acorns for consumption is let them germinate, so the starches turn into malt sugar. I’ve only just developed a new product with acorns to introduce this precious nut to public because acorns are generally considered inedible here in Germany. NewTella is a sweet breadspread just like Nutella, the famous hazelnut creme, except that all ingredients are locally available, it has less sugar and the only fats are from the acorn. The basic preparation is to roast leached, peeled and germinated acorns, boil 1 part acorns with 3 parts of apple juice, when soft process them smoothly, add 20 % sugar with pectine. This bread spread is also a great way to preserve acorns and can be used for cookies. It’s a great way to promote this gigantic untapped ressource and jazz up general nutrition.”
A few exchanges about Peter’s process is below in the comments. He shells them, leaches them (cold water) and sprouts them before using them to make his NewTella. That helps convert the starch to malt, which is sweet. To visit Peter’s site click here.
Lastly you may have a use for those acorns that float. Most of them have a weevil grub in them, the Acorn Curculio. Look for a little 1/8 inch hole. In time that grub will crawl out and burrow into the ground for a couple of years turning into a full-fledged insect. You can use that grub in the acorn as bait for fish. Or, you can let it crawl in to a bucket of dirt or sawdust or a container of oatmeal where it will make a cocoon which you can then open later and use for bait. Store live in the frig. Also, squirrels like the grubs so it is not beyond reason to use them for bait for aquirrels. And to answer your question, the grubs are edible by humans raw or cooked.
Acorn Bread
2 cups acorn flour
2 cups cattail or white flour
3 teaspoons baking powder
1/3 cup maple syrup or sugar
1 egg
1/2 cup milk
3 tablespoons olive
Bake in pan for 30 minutes or until done at 400 degrees.
A far more simple form of acorn bread is to make a thick acorn porridge out of cold processed acorn flour. Take a large tablespoon of the porridge and drop it into cold water. This causes the porridge to contract. Take the lump out of the water and dry.
Green Deane’s “Itemized” Plant Profile
IDENTIFICATION: Acorns, small nut with cap. Rough and larger caps belong to the more bitter acorns.
TIME OF YEAR: Usually late summer, fall, tree do not produce every year.
ENVIRONMENT: Oaks inhabit all kinds of environments.
METHOD OF PREPARATION: Numerous once leached of tannins.: out of hand, flour, candy.
HERB BLURB
The tannins have been used as an astringent as well as antiviral, antiseptic and antitumor but could also be carcinogenic. The mold that develops on acorns has antibiotic properties.
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Are you aware of anyone using acorns for alcohol?
I was considering how germination in malting process could improve the viability of acorns as a resource.
Toodles.
I have not heard of acorns being used for alcohol. I would think there are two issues. One is the amount of oil that is in the nut, and the other might be how to make the starch in the acorn available for yeast to eat. It might require some processing to be used to make alcohol. Do you have an Acorn Chardonnay in mind?
Hi Neil, I have heard of the leaves being used to make wine.
The wine is made with oak leaves, sugar, oranges, yeast and pectional. You can find the recipe in Wild Food from Roger Phillips. Cheers!
Thanks for writing… I think “made with” states the involvement of leaves too much. The leaves have tannin in them and that is often added to wine to improve the flavor. They were added for flavoring.
It turns out there is a well-established acorn liquor, mainly out of Spain. I’ve never been able to find anyone selling it in the U.S. This is the website of one of the main producers — be sure to check out their little promo video — most glamorous acorn I’ve ever seen
http://www.saboresextremenos.com/web/
http://www.saboresextremenos.com/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=85&Itemid=104&lang=en
In my backyard is an Oak. It is a member of the White Oak family but I am not that good at all the Oak distinctions other than just knowing some of the red, black, and white varieties. Anyway I picked up right away that the acorns had “small” caps in relation to the acorn size so I knew it may have less tannin. I opened one and sampled the meat. I was amazed that it had no tannin. No bitterness at all and I can eat them raw as is. This is how I know it must be a member of the White Oak family. But I don’t know the exact name yet. So now the squirrels have competition. lol
Is it really safe to eat white oak acorns raw? What are the possible dangers? Are there any poisonous fungi we should watch for?
Is there the risk of tannin poisoning if raw acorns are consumed in excess?
Tannic acid irritates the kidneys. At some point irritation become a toxic issue. This is why they are leached. White oak acorns are safe if they are low in tannins, but usually they have to be leached. Fungi is usually not an issue.
Thank for the great info on oaks and especially live oaks and the Curcuilo.
I started collecting acorns from the two beautiful trees in back of our house, the Oyster Catcher, after reading Euell Gibbons book, “Stalking the Wild Aspararagus.”
Is there a time limit after the acorns fall before there no longer useable?
They tend to go bad in a few months if left on the ground. However, propery stored they can be good for a couple of years.
Hello there, I was just wondering if I could store already cold-leached and dried acorn flour? And if so, how long will it stay fresh?
Stored well a couple of years.
Howdy Green Deane, Greetings from the Knottyfood Manufactory
Thanks for the mention. Peter Becker
My pleasure Peter. I have three question. In preparation you say you roast “leached, peeled and germinated acorns.” What is the exact order? 1) germinate, shell, leach then roast? 2) Shell, germinate, leach then roast? 3) Shell, leach, germinate then roast? And is that cold water or hot water leaching? And how much of the shoot do you use? You don’t have to give away trade secrets but a hint would be nice.
First I leach them in several changes of water, until it remains clear. By the time the shoot usually appears and storage componants transform to sugar, the vitamins multiply and the malt sugar upgrades the flavour when roasting. So after germination they`re peeled and roasted for 15 min at 160 ° C. Then they´re cooked in 2 parts (meaning twice the amount than acorns) of apple juice until soft (apple juice will be mostly reduced), cooled off because the pectine sugar has to be added that way with the third part of apple juice, then cooked for another 4 min., processed and filled into sterilized glasses.
I hope it all makes sense now. I use dandelion root syrup as a spice, because my goal is a healthy sustainable regional alternative to commercial brands of hazelnut spreads with all sorts of imported ingredients.
But when you try this preperation you can certainly also add vanilla or chocolate.
One more interesting thing: Quercus robur, the most common oak here in Germany peels the easiest, because germination cracks the shell into three pieces.
So if you`re only just starting to explore the properties of acorns; soak a handful of each kind and look for the ones that peel real easy. Other kinds can be a real pain becauce you have to scrub off the shell and the “endotesta” (brown inner skin) sticks to the nut.
so you shell them, leach them and they still germinate… Interesting.
Peter, is this a method that you have developed, or was it passed down to you? Interested to see if it might be an ethnic European approach. Thanks!
On top of it, they make great food for your chickens. No leaching required, just crack the shells and you have a feeding frenzy! It sure helps cut down on feed costs. (I’m using Q. lobata out here–and they sure have a mouth-puckering bitterness fresh.)
Does any animal eat the cap of a Valley Oak’s acorn? The caps seem to be ignored by squirrels, deer, and birds, yet they disappear somehow. What happens to them?
Maybe they are stole to make whistles…. that’s what I use them for. (As far as I know they are not edible except by litter denizens.)
How do you make whistles out the caps? Please. : ) I am doing a puppet show on Quercus Agrifolia and I bet the audience would love to know, and me too! Thanks.
It’s how you hold the cap. Making fists, you put the fingernails of both forefingers together. You put the acorn cap, cup up, on top of the end of those two fingers holding the cap down with your thumbs. You hold your thumbs so to cover the open cup leaving a V space. You blow into that V space and it whistles.
http://www.sciencetoymaker.org/acorn/assembl.html
Hi Green Deane,
I collected some acorns yesterday and tried to sort out the good ones from the grub-infested ones by submerging them in water. Much to my surprise, they all sank to the bottom, suggesting that they were all good. I had probably 50-75 acorns. Is this just great luck or a red flag of some sort? I tried this with another batch from a different tree about two months ago and more than half had grubs inside. If the grubs aren’t eating these new acorns, should I?
Thanks for your help.
Great that they all sank, though you will still find a few that aren’t edible. Lack of grubs isn’t an issue. It might be past grub season in your area. You should, however, collect mostly brown acorns, not green ones.
Oops! I thought I was on Peter’s site… Nevertheless, I am very interested in learning more from you, as well. Do you ever offer classes outside of FL? MD, specifically?
James
No problem… he knows his European Oaks.
I saw you mentioned leaching acorns by “burying them in a river bank.” Do you know any details about this method? It sounds like it could really conserve water and result in a better tasting nut.
I have 44 acres of post oaks in sandy soil. If I buried the acorns, then the rains would wash out the tannins as they soaked into the sandy soil.
However, if I didn’t do it right, I could imagine that I’d lose the whole crop to mold or insects! So please tell me your source.
Thanks!
It was not the rain the leached the acorns but the water seeping thorugh the river bank.
Hi Deane,
Will the green acorns turn brown (ripen) if picked or do they have to remain on the tree to become brown? We are in competition here with the squirrels and was just trying to one up them.
Thanks
Green ones will trun brown in time, but the brow of going bad rather than ripening. I used to know an old Italian organic gardener named Rudy Picconi. When it came to insects and squirrels and the like he used to say “you just have to let them have some of them.”
Green Deane. Just wanted to say how excited I am to find your site and videos. I’ve been interested in this for a couple of years now but have had no luck trying to identify plants using a field guide. So far, I’ve found poke, ground cherries, may pops, of course dandelions. There’s so many more plants out here that I can’t identify though. I THINK I have mares tails! It’s frustrating trying to look them all up. How can I find someone in my local area who could help me in this area (Identifying.) I’m in south ARkansas near Hope. OH and I’ve turned my step-son to your site as well since he lives in central FL and is wanting to learn as well. THANKS AGAIN!
If you go to the main page and type “resources’ in the search window you will go to a page that has foraging instructors listed by state and town. If there are none near you I suggest you email the nearests one and ask them if they know of any one near you. Often that works.
About 77 years ago, I tasted an acorn from one of the little scrub oaks that dot the countryside in SE Oklahoma (McCurtain County). That acorn was the bitterest thing I had ever had in my mouth. From that day to this, I had never considered eating another one. Today, I needed a word to substitute for “nut” and so curiosity led me to check out acorns. What a wonderful trip it has been, reading various articles about the “Oak Nut”.
In Korean culture (and i think this is also done with other oriental countries), we actually make this acorn jelly known as mook. to be honest, it’s kind of bland but strangely addicting when eaten with a sauce made of soysauce, vinegar, korean red pepper flakes, and sesame seeds.
Hi, Justin! Yes, I’ve bought acorn flour at my local Korean market many times, though I’ve never used it for mook (or, to be fair, even tasted mook). I use it mostly in baking. I assume, since mook will “set up” like Jello, that the acorns must be cold-processed, though I’ve never tried acorn flour in a sauce or gravy.
an acer of oaks will feed a bunch of hogs. unfortunantly, it will feed a bunch of hogs.
If no one else has already mentioned it, let me be the first to tell you that the idea of leeching the acorns in the toilet tank is an awesome one. Actually even if someone already has, it is that great of an idea that it deserves re-acknowledgement.
Ummm… Can anyone tell me when my oak is going to ease up on the masting? I am under a constant barrage of ping panging for weeks already. While it is quite fascinating, it is also distracting, loud, and messy.
Thanks
Soon, and not again for at least two years.
I found grubs in my red oak acorns this week 9/25/12 early fall. Will all the red oak acorns have grubs in them or will the acorns that drop later not have as many? Its a fairly large tree about 42 inc diameter. I have lost 2 large red oaks 6 to 8 ft in diameter in the past 3 years that I think were due to stress/drought. I live in east Tennessee close to Gatlinburg. Thanks
Acorns on the ground have more grubs than acorns on the tree.
Hi Green!
I collected oak acorns from the ground here in Texas, but they are all green. Do I dry them in the oven now or wait for them to turn brown? If I wait, what is the best way to store them in the meantime? Thanks for all you do, it is a lot of fun to try your suggestions!
Kim
It’s better to collect brown ones on the tree or newly dropped on the ground. The green ones won’t ripen to brown but they will age to brown, which we don’t want. Process the green ones.
Green Deane, thanks for all the great information. Sorry if I missed this but are there any variety of oaks in N. America that are poisonous due to substances other than the tannins?
No. Tannins are the only bug-a-boo.
Wow! what a fun read this has been!! I found a bunch of really good sized acorns at my work the other day, here in Sandy, Utah that had fallen from a neighbors tree on the other side of the wall and thought I would gather them up rather than let them go to waste didn’t really know what to do with them but figured I could get on the internet and find out if they had any nutritional value and how to use them, well here I am, I am always tasting things and wondering about all those long forgotten wild foods….and I have become more health conscious for myself and nature, have to tell ya my husband was a bit worried though when I brought a few home and was chewing on them…..gees dear he said what if they r poisonous?? My reply was,”hey the squirrels eat them so how sick could I get?” The foods we eat today seem to be doing a lot of harm so maybe we should take a step back to more nature. Any way I gotta tell ya I am really excited to try sprouting them as I seems my body does really well on sprouts!! And thinking the roasted ones might be a great treat as well as another tasty form of nutrients and some protein. Who said eating couldn’t be so fun…makes ya feel like a kid again exploring and tasting new things. Kind of a bummer I will have to wait another 2 years though for more….is that just for that tree or could other trees be on a different cycle? And 50 to 100 years?? Better get busy sewing seeds for future generations!!! Oh and can’t wait to read up on your Amaranth posting. Seems I will be a regular reader. Thanks again.
“gees dear he said what if they r poisonous?? My reply was,”hey the squirrels eat them so how sick could I get?””
Say and do the same about squirrel and mushrooms and you will die soon!
hi i live in santa barbara ca and on the property is a oak tree the leaves are small and pointy what kind of oak tree is it it is about 100 years old and just got trimmed this tree drops nuts every year and tons of them are they eatable.
Hi there, thanks for the interesting info on acorns. I collected a bunch of seeds from the bur oak, they’re nice and big. I leached them by putting them in a mesh bag after shelling and placing them in the tank part of the toilet. They were left for a few weeks. With every flush they were washed free of their bitterness. This is a great way to use the clean water from the tank of the toilet. Afterwards, I dried them in an open oven at 170 degrees F and blended them in a blender.
The flour makes awesome pancakes and muffins, although I have been using half and half wheat flour with acorn. Not sure how straight up acorn flour works. I need to experiment some.
I loved reading all of these posts. I have 2 Texas Live Oak trees. One in the backyard and one in the front yard. I have no room on my property for any other tree, as they are huge!
My puppy, Dusty loves to play with the acorns by throwing them up in the air, then he either catches it or bats it with his paw. He also likes to roll on his back, using his paws, Dusty juggles the acorn, throws it up in the air, then catches it in his mouth! He got one stuck in his ear and we had to go to the vet to get it out. Dusty is also a chewer. The vet said as long as he doesn’t eat a bucket full within 3 days, and has no side effects, that Dusty was one of those dogs that acorns don’t seem to affect them. I still watch to keep him from getting too many of them.
I have several immune diseases. I have to be on a diet called the Inflammatory diet. Basically, I can only eat foods that people could eat before the 1600′s, and all my fresh food has to be prepared by me. I can not have anything from a grocery store or restaurant that is pre-made, processed, canned or frozen from the food companies.
It sounds like I have an immune patients equivalent of gold in my yard. The tannin could help me naturally with my inflamed joints. I would love to get more information on this and making food from acorns.
Thank you all!
Hi Deane,
Can you tell me if it’s really necessary to remove the testa from white oak acorns, or is it OK to eat? Thanks.
You do not have to remove the testa but it can make the nut more bitter.
My neighbor found the largest acorns I’ve ever seen. The cap is more like a hard hat than a cap, and covers almost then entire acorn. The acorn itself is 1-1/4″ long and approx. 3/4″ in diameter. We are located in southern Indiana and are used to the pin oak and white oak trees and they have the small acorns with small caps. Any idea what type he has discovered, and are they edible as is ?
Thanks
Perhaps it’s a burr oak.
How do I tell what kind of Oak trees I have and is there an optimal time to let the nuts stay on the ground before I gather them? Should I be out there every day as soon as they start to fall? Also, if the bad ones float in water, does that mean all the others are good to eat? I picked up almost a half gallon and most of them were mushy, grey in color or had black streaks in them. Are the ones that are black good to eat?
Generally white oaks have round leaves, red and black oaks have pointy leaves. Acorns on the ground attract weevils which lay the eggs that turn into grubs. And acorns on the ground get eaten by woodland creatures. So sollecting them often is good. The acorns that float usually have a grub or a worm. The grub is edible. The acorns that sink usually are good (if you get them fresh. If they are gray or musty in side they were collected too late. A small gray area can be cut out but if the nut is all gray toss it.) Black ones that you have not personally leached in good water for a year or two are NOT edible.
I have enjoyed making acorn muffins for the last month here in Buellton Ca. Placed groundcloth under good calif. Liveoak, knocked acorns down with a pole. Sundried until nuts separated from shell. Crack and skin a cup or so once a week. Pound to a pulp in a mortar n’ pestle . Put pulp into a mason jar and fill with water. Refridgerate.Change water once or twice a day for 4 or 5 days,keep in fridge. Recipe. 1 cup fresh stoneground cornmeal, 1 cup drained leached acorn pulp, 3/4 cup wheat flour, 1/4 amaranth flour, 3 tablespoons melted butter, 3 teaspoons baking power , 3/4 cup milk, two eggs, and 1/2 cup diced walnuts. Cook in well greased muffin pans at 400 for 15 minutes.
So I want to do the cold leaching process, but I’m worried about fungus growth, especially anything that produces mycotoxins. Am I being over paranoid? Would soaking in saltwater or adding some hydrogen peroxide prevent spoilage?
As long as you change the water once a day there should be no problem. Twice a day is the usual.
We’re here in the foothills of central California near Kings Canyon-Sequoia. Our sweat leader tosses acorns into the fire and roasts them for a few minutes. He takes them out when they’re black and smoking. He cools them for a few minutes. Then we crack them open and eat them. They’re delicious. I was looking for information about processing them this way for food. Does anyone have any information?
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I am wondering if you have ever tried using leached acorn to make a crust for pumpkin pie.
any comments to the subject would be both helpful and much appreciated.
thank you
Aimey
No I haven’t … I am a far better cook than baker. But, I do know acorn flour has to be mixed wiht 50% wheat flour or more. If a dough is more than 50% acorn flour it will crumble.
When it comes to pie crust crumble is good. I had a bag of frozen nightshade berries from last year, and decided to go with 3/4 cold leached acorn for crust. It was a good decision. It was easier not having to worry about over working it. So for pie crust make sure its over 50%. Great flavor as well.
i am trying to use live oak acorns some of the acorns when shelled are brown and some of them are a yellow color , are the yellow ones good to use ?
tia
Brown usually means they are too old to use. Yellow usually means a low amount of tannins.
Hello all! Great site. I finally collected acorns from my heavily covered yard. I checked them for holes and put them in water and only a few floated. I got sidetracked and came back about 10 min later. Now I have a few grubs floating and no more acorns floating. How do I hunt down the acorns that had grubs? Am I just supposed to pull every one of them with a crack? I guess I’m really asking how perfect do these little guys need to be for consumption. I read the grub is actually edible but I dont really want to be eating them or any thing they left behind in the nut!!
You throw them in water. Acorns that float usuallly have a grub or a worm or have been compromised in some way.
Hello i would like to know wich species of oak is native in the island o Kea in Greece Thank you
Seven pine species grow naturally in Greece. Pinus halepensis, P. brutia and P. pinea are low-altitude. P. nigra, P. heldreichii, P. sylvestris and P. peuce grow at higher altitudes…. oopse … you asked about oaks… there are eleven oaks. You will have to look at them to sort out which ones. They are Quercus cerris. Q. frainetto, Q. infectoria, Q. ithaburensis subsp macrolepis, Q. robur, Q. trojana, Q. petraea, Q. coccifera, Q. ilex, Q. suber, and Q. pseudosuber.
Sorry for that previous message! Major brain fart there! Obviously you’d see a healthy acorn from one that has had a worm in it when it’s opened. So . . .I’ll try to not leave you anymore retarded messages!! Thanks anyway!
I was wondering if there was a YouTube video on these different methods of processing? I’m more of a visual learner and am interested in experimenting with my acorns.
This seems like a LOT of work for a small yield..BUT in times of hunger one might resort to it…Not crazy about anything remotely bitter, but if someone prepared some, I’d give em a try
Its not a lot of work when you crack the acorns with a machine. Check out the ‘dave bilt’ hand crank machine. they claim 50 pounds of walnuts per hour cracked, and I tell you from experience it works well for acorns of different sizes.
Different fineness of flour or meal can be done with blenders and food processors. It is a lot of work changing the water regardless of batch size, that’s why its better to go big.
Can acorns being used to dye the hair? If yes,how?
Hi, Just read your article. I am starting to make my own salves and lotions. I would very very much like to make a safe, natural tanning lotion that temporarily tans your skin. I am not sure if this is possible. The article says that the brown water is safe for a skin wash, but what about lathering it all over your body 3 times a week during the summer? Wonder if the tannic acid would build up in your body and become toxic?? thanks for any info!
Ashley,
First, the brown water will not lather… and the acid in it will prevent many soaps from lathering. Yes, it is an acid! It can burn you.
Second, it may not give you the golden sun goddess skin tone you want, if you decide to try this as a tanning solution, try it at your own risk (it is an acid), and try it on an otherwise unexposed (if possible) part to see…
Third, the tannins are an acid. They will not build up in your body, but rather will act as an acid. They will dry your skin out. Depending on the concentration of tannin, it could cause chemical burns.
Finally, did I mention it is an acid? Did I tell you it can burn you? Did I explain that it may not give you the skin tone you want? If you decide to proceed, do so at your own risk.
I’ve seen how long an oak might wait to start bearing acorns, but is there an upper limit, when live oak trees get too old to bear nuts?
I’ve read they mast for centuries.
Is it possable to buy white oaks
Hi Mr. Deane! Question: at what point should you shell the acorn? I’m assuming after leaching and before processing??? Thanks for all you are teaching us!
Shell first, the leach.
Hi Green Deane,
How do you separate acorn starch from the rest of the flour? I would like to attempt to make a acorn liquor this year with just the starch and see what I get. Thanks for the article.
I’ve never been asked that question and I’m not sure I have an answer. There’s also protein and fat. It would take a lot of work but probably the hot method would work. It would be much easier to buy the acorn flour at Korean markets.
I usually end up with starch when processing my meal in the cold leach process. The acorn “milk” which passed through the cloth will settle after a day or two on the bottom. Its too fine to catch with the cloth but its stil heavy enough to settle and become very dense. This year was no different and I ended up with it several inches thick. So for about each sack of flour worth I get a cup of starch as a by product. Not much but that is how I end up with it for making pudding and thickening.