Vinegar: Your own unique strain

by Green Deane

in Cooking Methods & Materials,Pickles/vinegar,Spice/Seasoning

The vinegar mother above —three inches across and a half in thick — was collected from the wild in Lake Mary, Florida, in 1996 and has been making vinegar since. Normally white to translucent, this mother has spent a lot of time in malt vinegar and has picked up the beer coloring.

Collecting Acid Bactar: Making Vinegar

You might not want to read this, but here is the nitty gritty on vinegar: All  vinegar — even the stuff you buy — got its start from the dirty feet of manure-loving flies, and it gets worse.  Vinegar is the sewage of bacteria eating alcohol. And alcohol is the sewage of yeast eating sugar. Of course, we can clean up the nouns and verbs skip the manure part and say vinegar is made from alcohol and alcohol from sugar. Sounds nicer, doesn’t it.

Many years ago I was making a lot of wine and beer. Florida allows an individual to make a generous amount of beer and wine for personal use without running into legal issues.  With so much wine I thought about making real vinegar. When most people say they make vinegar they’re talking about putting spices et cetera into commercially produced vinegar. I wanted to make my own vinegar, from scratch so to speak. As it comes out, that is easy or a bit of a challenge, depending on how you want to do.

A handsome, young vinegar fly with dirty feet looking for fun and adventure

Here’s the easy way to make malt vinegar: Buy a six pack of beer with no preservatives, go to a wine supply store and buy a few ounces of mother, dump the mother into the warm, flat beer, put in a warm dark place, and soon you will have more vinegar and mother than you will ever need. Mother reproduces forever as long as you feed it so you need to only buy a vinegar mother once.

Red wine mother

I did that for a couple of years. Got to know how the mother behaved, looked and reproduced. And since it came from a lab where the acid bactar was bred for vinegar production, the product was consistent all the time. The only problem was everyone else with the same mother was getting the same vinegar. I wanted a mother all my own, a strain of acid bactar that no one else on earth had (in theory.)  That meant I had to 1) collect it 2) make it into vinegar and 3) keep doing that until I found an acid bactar flavor I liked.  You should know that both yeast and acid bactar can “throw”  bad flavors, so not all wild yeasts or wild acid bactars will produce good wine or vinegar. When you collect from the wild, it is the luck of the draw.

Light vinegar mother

In hindsight part two and part three, making and testing, were easy. It was part one that was the most difficult initially, collecting the acid bactar. I followed all the advice I could read back then — no internet in the Dark Ages — and failed completely. No wine or beer I ever set out ever collected one bit of vinegar bacteria. Ever. I tried for nearly a year and got absolutely nowhere. I put the project in the someday pile.

Big time vinegar cider production

At the same time I moved to a place that had some property and was organic gardening intensely. I started to have a significant problem with moths and the like that come in the warm Florida nights and lay caterpillar eggs. I read of a natural trap one could make so I made one. I few weeks after I hung up the moth trap I looked inside and noticed it had worked very well; a lot of dead moths and other insects. I also noticed something else: Some vinegar mother.  What I had failed to intentionally get for a year was accidentally delivered unto me.

Sometimes it can look disgusting

I not only cleaned and kept that mother, I started another trap, then another. Of the three strains I got, one was weak, that is it made a very mild vinegar. One tasted awful, and one was good. I’ve had that third mother 16 years. Maybe it’s time to find some more since I have moved a second time and might have even more interesting acid bactar is this area.

I refined my mother traps and ingredients as I went along and never failed to get a mother. This is the only place that I know of —until copied, of course — on the internet where you can learn how to make a mother trap:

The classic vinegar pot for home production

 

Once the weather is warm — read the insects are active — get a one or two quart plastic soda bottle. Two quart is easier to work with later on. Into it pour a cup or two of sugar, and two cups of water. Also drop in one banana peel, all of it, when you’re done eating the banana of course. Add a splash of vinegar for aroma, a teaspoon will do. Leave the top off the bottle. You can stretched a small piece of cheese cloth with an elastic over the opening if you like but it is not necessary. That reduces the number of bug bodies but you want big enough holes for the vinegar fly to get through.  Hang the bottle in the shade.  (If you put it on the ground the ants and animals find it too soon.) Between two and six weeks after you hang it up you should see some phlem-like cloudiness in the liquid. That is the acid bactar forming a mother. Sometimes it can happen in as little as two weeks. Also, if you live where it rains a lot, you also should hang it somewhere in the shade where it won’t fill up with rain water. (What happens is the wild yeast on the banana peel turns some of the sugar into alcohol which is food for the bacteria on fly feet.)

Mother floats and you drain vinegar from the bottom

Because the bright daytime environment is not the best for the acid bactar, it probably won’t be a hard mother (hard like some of the stuff you cough up when you have a chest cold.) Now you have two choices. What I used to do was cut open the bottle, fish out some loose mother, remove as many bug parts as I could, and put that mother in a new alcoholic non nitrate-medium in a warm dark place. Dark is important.  However, all you really have to do is strain the liquid though a paper filter or the like and use the juice to start the mother. It has the bacteria in it. Either way in the new medium the bacteria will form a hard mother in a few weeks that will float on the top of the liquid while turning the liquid below into vinegar.

The difficult part is having untreated wine or beer to make into vinegar. Neither can have any preservatives or be treated to get rid of bacteria. It is not so much a problem with beer in that many beers have no preservatives. Wine is a different issue. You either have to make your own without any sulfides et cetera or buy it that way, often in health food stores called challice wine. Of course, you could make homemade apple cider — another article here — or make some beer. Either works well.

I intentionally made six-pack batches (about one gallon) of malt vinegar with my new-found mothers. It was cheap and easy to use one particular beer (Miller’s) so that way I could compare the flavors the acid bactar were throwing without having to contend with different flavors of beer. It takes about three months to get a real good zip to the vinegar. Then you bottle it and drop in some sulfide to kill the bacteria, or heat it to 140F but not hotter than 160F. Or not do that.

I found the easiest containers to make one -gallon batches of vinegar in are the ice tea containers with a spigot on the bottom.  Then you drain off your vinegar and bottle it.

Collecting and making vinegar is far more iffy than wine making but there is great satisfaction in making your very own vinegar. If you have any questions, email me and I’ll answer them if I can.

 

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1 Green Deane October 26, 2011 at 05:01

Hi Green;

I’ve been trying to make vinegar for a couple years using your method from YouTube. And it always starts fine, just starts to smell like vinegar and before the mother can ‘take off’ and grow the whole thing goes moldy. I must have tried 3-4 times a year while the weather was still warm enough here in South Carolina for the little flies to be around…

((I’ve been making the hard cider, your way, for the same time and it always turns out ok, although some different yeast sources do taste better than others. So far I like wine or champagne yeast and let it go for 2 1/2 days only (I like it a little sweeter and more apple taste and it has a lot of carbonation. Also I was going to use this for the vinegar base once I got my ‘mother’ started..)

Anyway, back to the vinegar, I decided to START with the hard cider with the banana peel instead of sugar water and it worked first try!! I’ve had my ‘mother for about 6 months and it almost fills a 64 oz juice jug, I use a small spoon full of it for red wine, apple cider, and even put some into beer and it all worked fine!!

So I thought you might try it that way if you wanted to try again, lost your ‘mother’, try to get a different strain, whatever. It really works great and much easier if you START with hard cider, esp if you happen to have a batch of cider that you didn’t like as well (My batch had fermented too long, so I used it for the vinegar)

Jackie

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2 Green Deane October 26, 2011 at 14:25

Deane,

Well, it looks like I may actually have two mothers in the making! I
followed your recipe with the banana skins but w/out the splash of
vinegar for two of my collectors, and I just put out a third using
apple skins to see if that’ll throw a different scent. I’m pretty
sure I’m on the right trail with the first two because I could
actually smell them on the wind as I approached. Now to chase down the
beer!

Can you recommend a good beer for a malt vinegar and a good chalice
wine? I really need to get brewing again because I only have a 2liter
of elderberry wine and a 2liter of agave mead left in the house.

and by the way on the agave mead. I really suggest brewing some if you
haven’t already. I do 1 – 1.25 ( 1/2 the big 2lb bottle from the
store) of agave nectar into a 2liter jug, add 1 cup of white sugar, 1
whole clove, then a tablespoon of yeast. I have been using baking
yeast in my projects so far and it throws a very heavy taste to the
brews. But, the end result, and even in wort, is a wonderful taste
that doesn’t survive long at parties I bring it to.

-Chris

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3 Green Deane October 26, 2011 at 14:26

Regarding beer, use the one you like. Chalice wine is harder to find, usually in health food stores. There’s no leading brand that I know of… though it does sound like a good, personal research project.

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4 Chris @ Jax December 1, 2011 at 14:03

Hey Deane, how do we care for a vinegar mother after a batch of vinegar is completed? Can we bottle it and refrigerate it, leave it in the old container, or have to constantly start a new batch to maintain the mother? I’m about to have more vinegar than I’ll need well into February and I don’t really feel like prepping up another batch once these are done.

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5 Green Deane December 1, 2011 at 14:09

Just put it in the frig with a little beer or the like to sit in.

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6 Savannah June 26, 2012 at 03:19

So happy to have found your website!
Not much out there on true vinegar making.
I am wondering, I made some red wine vinegar, how do I find out what acidity it is? In my understanding, most store-vinegars are diluted to about 5%, and I’m just thinking, when I give it as gifts, maybe I should dilute mine a little if people aren’t expecting it to be very acidic.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
Savannah

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7 Green Deane June 30, 2012 at 07:04

There are tests to tell but usually 10% is under distillation conditions.

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8 michelemz June 30, 2012 at 05:24

j’ai un vinaigrier où je verse tous les restes de vin, mais maintenant la mère est trop grosse, que puis-je en faire, … dans le compost ? dans la fosse septique?… où ailleurs ?…, le vinaigre est très bon et naturel..

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9 Green Deane June 30, 2012 at 06:41

Donner à vos amis…

(The question was I have a good mother but I have a lot of it. Do I compost it? Put it down the toilet? Somewhere else? What? My answer: Give it to friends.)

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10 SJ Smith October 15, 2012 at 11:53

Love your youtube videos. Had to check out your site because I want to make some cider vinegar. The guy at the beer supply store thought I was mad. I guess if I was trying to make wine or beer and ended up with vinegar, I’d be a bit upset. If I understand what I’ve read on the internet, first you make alchohol. It is anaerobic, and I’ll use one of those valves to let the carbon dioxide escape. No large air gap necessary. It prefers a bit cooler temps. Then, I siphon out the good stuff and will have hard cider and more yeast for alcohol. In another container, fill about 3/4 full of hard cider and add the mother. This is an aerobic bugger, and so cap it with some cheesecloth and a rubber band. Am I on the right track? Do I need to add sugar at any step, or is the pasteurized ‘fresh’ apple juice adequate?

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11 Green Deane October 15, 2012 at 15:58

You’ve got it right. Just make sure the “pasturized” apple cider does not contain preservatives. Those will kill yeast and or acid bactar.

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12 Reina October 19, 2012 at 17:29

I have watched your video and read your step by step making your own mother strain from the banana peel instructions. So I have all of that with the exception that I want to confirm that I don’t need yeast or should I to add a little warm defizzed beer for better Mother? However can you direct me to your next step after I have the Mother…the directions to make a full batch of banana vinegar. I already have friends in my little town that I have promoted homemade vinegar to and I want to start production and share. I live in Costa Rica and so some items I can not obtain such as a wide mouth glass gallon jar, yeast and cheese cloth. Can I substitute another kind of jar?

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13 Mari December 15, 2012 at 20:57

I have a bottle of Bragg raw unfiltered apple cider viengar, at this point only with the Mother and a tiny bit of vinegar left in the bottle. I am wondering what to add to the mother to produce more vinegar. My impulse is to add hot water, but I haven’t done this after reading your column here. Please suggest? Thanks.

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14 Green Deane December 16, 2012 at 17:09

Yes, add a bottle or can of warm beer you’ve let go flat.

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15 Elisa December 21, 2012 at 21:01

I had about 1/4 cup of Bragg’s vinegar left and I divided it up between 4 glass jars, added two quarts of organic apple cider (from a grocery store) equally, to the 4 jars. I covered each jar opening with a scrap of an old white tee shirt (allows gases to escape I think), secured with rubber bands, and now, two weeks later there are 4 great mothers in the works. There was only a tiny bit of a mother in the Bragg’s jar, but now there is a lot of newly forming mother in each jar, top and bottom it seems. I’m very pleased so far.

Love this blog! Wish I’d found it sooner. :-)

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16 Bethany January 23, 2013 at 00:22

Hi, I want to make a vinegar just to be used for cleaning. I’ve been searching for directions on how to make a white flavorless vinegar with no luck. We use a LOT of vinegar around here for EVERYTHING. Even though the white distilled vinegar is affordable enough it most likely has nasty chemicals in addition to being packaged in a plastic container (we’re trying to eliminate purchasing anything in plastic -it’s not easy). Do you have any ideas that you can pass along please?

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17 Green Deane January 23, 2013 at 07:14

To make vinegar you need an alcoholic beverage, so you’d have to make that in quantities first then make that into vinegar…

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18 jen lynch January 26, 2013 at 14:18

Hi I am wondering if you can give me some advice. I have been trying to make vinegar with leftover wine since mid-December. I filled a mason jar with red wine and one with white. I did not have a good mother but used whatever I could fish out from my bottle of commercial organic cider vinegar. I wrapped them in black paper and covered the tops with cheesecloth and stuck them in the back of a closet. The internet articles I read suggested this method would work and was a great way to use up leftover wine.

However, at this point there has been much evaporation–at least a third–and the whole situation is becoming quite yeasty-smelling and stinky. (I live in an apartment.) I do not see any mother that has formed in either of the bottles.

If there is a possibility I could get decent vinegar I would keep going, but at this point I think I am just stinking up my home for no reason.

Thank you so much in advance for any advice you can give me.

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19 Green Deane January 28, 2013 at 13:41

You cannot make vinegar from most store-boughten wine because they have added nitrates that kill off bacteria.

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20 jen lynch January 28, 2013 at 19:24

thank you–dumping it out now

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21 augustus March 16, 2013 at 21:59

i want to start vinegar how should i do it because i don’t have any banannas

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22 Green Deane March 17, 2013 at 07:33

Then use a few grapes….

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23 Amber March 26, 2013 at 15:06

Hi Green Deane! I’m so happy to have run across your website…like your “mother”, by accident :-)

I have a question: I use GALLONS of white vinegar every year for cooking/canning. If I use banana/grapes to make my “mother”, can I then use that to make white vinegar without it tasting like bananas or grapes??? Also, I cannot find a recipe to use to make plain, white vinegar…any suggestions???

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24 Green Deane March 27, 2013 at 09:33

Yes… the banana or grapes are just to provide some yeast to make some alcohol to make the mother. Theren’t not enough there to flavor the vinegar.

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25 augustus April 4, 2013 at 13:13

i grow minnows as pets and they died while i was on vacation and i noticed sompething floating on the top of the tank and it had a faint vinegar smell do you think that it could be a mother in the making .

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26 SS May 23, 2013 at 21:17

I thoroughly enjoyed this article, thank you SO much. I have made Vinegar, but NEVER have even thought to source my own Mother, what a concept! I’m still pondering whether i might bring myself to try it…

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