Newsletter January 17, 2017

Dove Plums are best when dehydrated. Note different sized leaves.

Many people interested in foraging have a difficult time with the idea of picking something up off the ground and eating it. That’s what our ancestors did though admittedly it was a different time and many environments were different.

Perhaps it’s better to ask what wild edible and where? How about a ripe apple near a hiking trail along the Appalachian Trail? False Strawberries in your back yard which is also your cat’s litter box? What about a soft ripe persimmon on sand? Or dehydrated Sea Grapes or Dove Plums in grass? In foraging classes I regularly eat recently dehydrated Sea Grapes. As with where to forage — regarding road placement — what to pick up and where is best decided by common sense than mindless rules. Generally I don’t have much of a problem with tough-skinned or dried fruit on sand or dry surfaces. This is a current interest because the aforementioned Dove Plum, which really isn’t a “plum” is shedding fruit.

Dove Plums at various stages. Photo by Green Deane

Dove Plum, also known as Pigeon Plum, is closely related to the Sea Grape and drops a lot of fruit that easily dehydrates naturally. However, unlike Sea Grapes, which are tasty fresh and dehydrated, the Dove Plum tastes better after he has been dehydrated (and or dehydrated and rehydrated.) Some fruit are good fresh and dried. Plums, apricots, and loquats are three good examples. Drying them changes the flavor but they are still good. Dove Plums are different. They are edible off the tree when plump and ripe but have an astringent taste. They taste better if they look like raisins (as are Smilax berries.) Dry Dove Plum fruit on the ground taste good like dried Sea Grapes. To read more abut the Dove Plum go here.

Tasty Tallow Plum. Photo by Green Deane

Another “plum” which is not really a plum is Tallow Plum. It’s an interesting shrub you can overlook often low-growing, if not hidden in the understory. One thing I have noticed is that virtually every Tallow Plum I have found has been along a trail or old road, which are transitions zones. All of them except in one location were low growing and never really got more than six feet high. Until recently I have only found this tasty fruit in coastal areas, that is with 20 miles or so of the coast. However I may have found one next to a bike trail mid-state (west of Orlando.) It looks like a good candidate so I will be watching for blossoms this spring. If so a 20-year quest to find this unusual thorny shrub inland will be over. Oddly it is fairly unknown in its native range but is reportedly a commercial fruit in other parts of the world. To read more about the Tallow Plum, go here.

Yellow Pond Lilies are extremely common but rarely eaten now. Photo By Green Deane

It’s time to visit an old stand-by that encompasses a lot of confusion, the Yellow Pond Lily. The main headache is the genus of the plant, Nupha. There were obvious differences between Nupha species in North America (where they were consumed) and in Europe (where they were not.) But botanists just refused to recognize they were different species and called just about everything Nupha lutea or close variations. Fast forward 300 years or so and botanists finally began to sort out the species and I’m not sure they’re done. There is a hodgepodge of botanical names and at least eight variation. One report in the 1600’s that the root of the Yellow Pond Lilly is edible. I have never found that to be so. I have spent a lot of time raising the species, foraging the root of the species, and preparing the species’ root. It is always too bitter to eat. Why, then,  do most foraging books say it is edible? Two possible answers: They are copying old information, and or they never tried to eat the root themselves. To read more about the Yellow Pond Lilly go here.

Rock Cress aka Sibara virginica.

Next there is a little mustard mystery. Locally it’s the time of year for a variety of small members of the mustard family. There is one mustard I see from north central Florida to West Palm Beach (it is also scattered about the United States. I think it’s Sibara virginica aka Virginia Rock Cress. It’s a bit of a moot debate in that all members of the family are edible so if you can identify the genus the exact species is not necessary. Rock Cress reminds me of Swine Cress except their seeds are different shapes, small round seeds with the Swine Cress, long toothpick like seeds of Rock Cress. Their flavors are similar, however.  To read more about many little mustards go here.

Classes are held rain or shine.

Foraging Classes: Except for hurricanes foraging classes usually are held as scheduled. We’re hungry when we are cold and wet so foraging classes are held when it is wet and when it is cold. Classes this weekend experienced mild weather. This coming weekend I am teaching at a private event. The weather for the class below is predicted to be mild.

Saturday January 28th, Red Bug Slough Preserve, 5200 Beneva Road, Sarasota, FL, 34233. 9 a.m.

To learn more about the classes, go here.

Herbal educator Deb Soule

Now’s the time to make sure you have a place at the sixth Florida Herbal Conference in February. This will be my sixth year attending the festival teaching about wild edible plants. There will be many herbal teachers from around the state and nation. Featured keynote speakers are Deb Soule and Guido Mase. The conference’s numerous classes range from Clinical Herbalism to Garden Medicine. Recreational activities at the Lake Wales site include yoga, singing, drumming, and canoeing. Ms. Imani and Beautiful Chorus will provide music. A wide array of artisans and crafters will also have booths at the conference.  Camping is included in registration, and indoor cabin lodging and weekend meal plans are also available.  Proceeds of the conference will benefit United Plant Savers. Again, to read about and register go here. 

Do you now this edible. You would if you read the Green Deane Forum. Photo by Green Deane

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This is Newsletter 241.

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  • Robert January 18, 2017, 11:41 am

    Thanks for the wonderful newsletters! I found a Tallow Plum in a scrub area on the Lake Wales Ridge State Forest, Arbuckle Track. I took a picture if you are interested.

  • farouk January 20, 2017, 1:44 am

    A scale of safety with respect of edibility may be considerered starting with less and moving towards the more safe bearing in mind the intimacy to nature i.e. degree of being wild, a plant is. As mentioned, avoid eating a plant growing in a cat box. During childhood I used to avoid ” Nubug ” – vernacular for ” Zizphus sativa ” fruit of my neighbour’s tree because it was growing near a pit latrine, inspite of the good quality – quite ripe and sweet. As said I’d rather pick an orange than a ripe persimmon – my first encounter nowadays here in an Indian supermarket in United Arab Emirates on sand.

  • Dawn Wisusik January 22, 2017, 9:54 am

    I enjoy reading your newsletter very much. I know you try not to be Florida specific, but you have to work with what you have. We are northern Michiganders who are interested in being more forage friendly. Do you have a co-forager in the great north that is as knowledgeable as yourself for me to learn more about local foraging? Would appreciate any leads. Thanks a bunch!

    • Green Deane January 22, 2017, 1:41 pm

      Thanks for writing. I do have foraging teachers listed on my website. There is a drop-down menu under the “foraging” button on the main page. Also Sam Thayer has two excellent books and he is in your area. They are Forager’s Harvest and Nature’s Garden.


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